Present:  Henri Braakenburg, Coen van Baggum,  Johan Riemersma, Maria Storsbergen, Isabel Terpstra, Ridie Vos, Lenie Nebbeling, Gerbert Rebel, Bertie Linschoten.  

Meeting in the communal room of the residential complex 55+ Bloemendaalse Buitenkade 11. 

1.Opening  No changes to the agenda.

2.Report meeting 3 September 2008.
Henri has received photographs from Leena (Finland). Henri hands out a more detailed manual for the use of the Futeurope website. Next meeting Heimen Hooyer will be invited.

3. Incoming mail, web-reports partner countries. Invitation for a conference  15^th of November on the so called ‘Silver Power’: What to do after retirement?; how and where to work as a volunteer? The Futeurope project can present itself there. Isabel en Ridie have ideas about sharing information about Futeurope with others.Henri has talked with the other coordinators about continuation of this project, but then with the focus on the way, how to start and facilitate this kind of study circles. They will propose this to the EU.

4. Announcements and asking around.
None

5. Retrospect meeting in Hungary
The meetings with the support organisations were helpful in gaining some understanding about the current policies in dealing with the elderly in Hungary. The visit to one home for the elderly was well prepared and delightful. We had the impression however, that this was not representative for all homes for the elderly in Hungary. The welcome meal in Debrecen was very much appreciated, as was the guidance and support of Zsuzsi. We very much enjoyed the discussion of the paper of the Hungarians on scale of values and the reflections on it from our side. We hope for further discussions on these issues.

6. Preparation next meeting
We will have a meeting with the chairmen of the council of the elderly of Amersfoort..One of the discussion points will be the arbitrarily set age upper limit of 70 years for entrance to a living community group. 

7. Brainstorm closing meeting in Amersfoort mid 2009.
We discussed  a number  of possible activities and program points. We need to address the requirements for sleeping, meals and transport for about 14 guests from abroad. Isabel will provide a first outline. Henri will make a first set-up for a symposium on the Friday of the planned visit. Henri will coordinate all ideas.

8. Closing. Next meetings 12^th November, chair Berti. Same place.